In all the years I have been alive, I have always known that the safety of this country resides in its citizen. The trouble with this is...those who want to control the world know it too...
A very kind hearted, and wonderful Christian sent me the following email. If you love your freedom, and truly understand from whence it came...you will pass this message on.
Obama, and the so-called elite's of this world...want your guns. Reading the following should open up even the most ignorant of eyes! [But then again...maybe not!]
"I Thought you might appreciate this . ."- Paul Anderson (2008)
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------China established gun control in 1935.From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated----
--------------------------Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
-----------------------------Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
------------------------------It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in:
List of 7 items: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break- ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.
You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.
Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
With guns, we are 'citizens'.
Without them, we are 'subjects'.
During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends If you are reading this, Thank a TEACHER. If you are reading this in ENGLISH, Thank a VETERAN...
[The above mentioned are FACTS! Something those who hate AMERICA ought to consider before furthering the destruction of this nation.]
++Now, after all that, if you still believe in gun control...you're weird, and possibly the most dangerous person on the planet! As stupidity and ignorance of world history is contagious and I consider it a damned plague.
If the citizen of any country is to survive, they MUST have access to equal protection under the gun! Without guns, history repeats itself, over and over again (the above is a SERIES of prime examples); until a time in which MEN, such as General George Washington stand up and make wrongs right!
Gun control simply stated is...population control! Nothing more, nothing less! Standing armies would hate to enter AMERICA...because of our guns! All of the examples above, are of NATIONS (their-own), that took weapons out of the hands of those (CITIZENS) who would defend themselves against the horror's to come! Since no-one alive today can tell the future...this fact, is seriously the most important reason to understand history!
What I cannot understand for the freaking life of me is how AMERICANS can even be debating this issue? For two-hundred-thirty-two years, GUNS have kept this country strong...NOT our puke-a-titions and pantie-wastes. AMERICANS with guns, keep this country secure; and that is JUST how our founding Fathers WANTED IT!!!!
Chew on that for awhile; and then ask yourself this question: "Does my family mean anything to me?"
My family is NOT, the only one that will be affected by this loss of "RIGHTS" (Second Amendment), yours will be too! Mark my words...if this country takes away any more Second Amendment "RIGHTS"...it just brings us closer to the above mentioned horrors! If you know nothing of history...true history...not this made up crap, that the left and all anti-AMERICAN jerks want you to believe, then shut-up and study or stop from voting!
"In life, one must learn from the mistakes of others as often as possible; as we do not have time enough to make all the mistakes ourselves"-Author Unknown (but brilliant).
The clock is ticking people...what are you going to do?
Keep your balls, keep your guns, defend your "RIGHTS" or lose them forever!
Thank you and come again.
GOD BLESS THIS COUNTRY, AND THOSE WITH THE BALLS TO KEEP HER OURS!
Two UK soldiers killed in blast
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8 comments:
I just have to come in on this one, gun control in the UK means we have an unarmed police force (yea the cops actually talk to you)plenty of crime but very little involving the use of firearms and I don't recall a massacre on a college campus!
I just have to come in on this one, gun control in the UK means we have an unarmed police force (yea the cops actually talk to you)plenty of crime but very little involving the use of firearms and I don't recall a massacre on a college campus!
Sorry for the double post only I did not wish to remain anonymous!
October 8, 2008 4:07 AM
Canada is another example of gun control as a good thing. Crime rates are lower in Canada. Our police are armed, yes, and you can get firearms in Canada for hunting, but it's much more difficult to get any kind of automatic weapon or handgun here. The majority of gun crime in Canada happens in Toronto, and it usually happens with guns smuggled in from the U.S.
Yes, you listed a lot of countries where gun control was imposed prior to their governments comitting genocide or similar executions. But those were fascist or communist dictatorships. Those were not free democratic states.
The cause of those examples you listed was not gun control itself, but the leaders who imposed it BECAUSE they wanted to disarm the people they sought to opress.
That's a MAJOR difference. If gun control came into power, do you think your government would quickly, and completely abandon democracy? Although either may suffer from some corruption at times, I don't really see either Obama or McCain becoming tyrants.
Freedoms do not always need to be claimed at gunpoint. There are plenty of free, democratic nations out there with gun control, where citizens enjoy the same rights that you do, AND rarely, if ever, have to fear the very real danger that guns present.
I will say that guns among responsible citizens are not so bad -- I know gun-owning Americans and Canadians who keep their weapons safely stored and would never think of harming another person. Switzerland is another great example, where every able-bodied man is required to have government-issued firearms in their home to protect their small, enclosed nation. Swiss gun crime is almost non-existant.
BUT clearly there's a lot of gun crime in the U.S. as in other places. Something must be done about that... but it's tricky since you already have so many guns in your country, gun control would have to be very gradually phased in. Like you say, the criminals will be the last to part with theirs.
I really enjoy reading Cailean's comments. You are very insightful and clearly, you think out your responses.
First, unlike your country of Canada...AMERICANS are given the "RIGHT" to keep and bear arms.
It is NOT an option for any government entity in our (MY) country to take away that right; lest the true Aericans revolt!
You stated that freedoms do not always have to be claimed at gun point. --Can you name me a time when the masses "ASKED" politely of their leaders: "May we have our liberty?" --Then got it?
FACT: That situation has never happened in ALL of mankinds history.
As far as McCain or Obama exterminating the population of the United States of AMERICA...of course not! That wasn't my dern point! My point is the same as you made...with the opposing interest of the issue.
You said it would be tricky and would have to be done incrementally or slowly (taking away our guns)!
My point is...they haven't the right to take OUR GUNS! WE ARE AMERICANS! WE ARE NOT WIMPS THAT SIMPLY ROLL OVER, AND GET MURDERED BY THOSE WHO DO HAVE GUNS!
Secondly, our Second Amendment "RIGHTS" were meant to shelter us from our OWN government! You see, people of this day and age have no understanding (especially in the Western Hemisphere) of tyrants and rule.
Socialist's like that of some Canada and other places around the world (as well as America)are simply communists that move slower! They all want the same thing...control [Historical FACT].
If they take away (slowly, like good socialist/communists) our guns...who is left to defend this country from itself (like my forefathers warned)?
Another widely known, but seldom mentioned FACT, there are people, powerful people that want to bring down AMERICA. They appear to be smarter than those on the socialist-left; as well as those on the ignorant right. Either that, or they are in on it (for pay and security of course).
Funny how the liars (John F'n Kerry) and hypocrites, love to spew control measures against Americans; even though they (like John F'n Kerry) own at least one fully Automatic Machine gun, as well as many other forms of pistols and rifles. Do you think the hypocrites (in power) are going surrender their weapons? yeah, right, when pigs fly or hell freezes over!
Liberty is won by blood and guts! It always has, and it always will, historical FACT! Liberty is retained by vigilant "CITIZENS" who are well educated in HISTORICAL FACT, and the need to understand human nature (of which the Socialist/Commie/Left understands all too well). They also understand that humans that are comfortably ensconed in their own lives will forego thought and endure clear sufferage rather than stand-up and fight for what is right...so long as they seem comfortable (by the way that is also in MY Declaration of Independence. All the while, allowing the government of this country to dictate through legislation (without a fight) laws that restrict movement and "RIGHTS".
Subjects like those seemingly of Canada and other locations around the world serve; where citizens rule! -W.B.B. JOHNSON
Mike, thank you for your repsonse as well.
I would like to point out one thing, that I believe to be a flaw in you logic.
Had the people in the schools (teachers, professors, adult students) had weapons as well...they would not have been subject to extermination...someone would have killed the bastards doing the shooting.
FACT is, we cannot stop horror's that exist in life; we can only fight back. That is by giving everyone the same playing field.
If you take guns away from the citizen, thus, making them subjects to be ruled...there will be only three entities that have weapons: Foreign countries, Our government, and criminals. Which one of those do you really trust to protect you and your family at midnight?
God...I can't even believe that I have to respond to this. Just twenty years ago...this wouldn't have been an issue that held salt!
"It is just like a wop to bring a knife to a gun fight" - Sean Connery [The Untouchables].
Oh and by the way...if you state your name, I promise, nothing will come of it. Names are nice, rather than anonymous.
Thank you and come again.
W.B.B. JOHNSON
Oh yeah, one more thing...90% of the time...the police show up AFTER...the murder has occured. What good does that do the individual? Why do y'all not understand...that it is up to the individual to protect themselves?
I really just don't get it! How can people have so completely given up their own safety to those who are not only incapable of providing adequate safety measures for the individual;but, they wouldn't if they could...the cost would be too great. Not to mention it goes against the communist agenda of 1963 (which has taken root in America). GOOGLE it if you don't believe me, every single line item has been accomplished since 1963...it is also a matter of Congressional record. January 10th 1963; Senator Herlong inrtoduced it into Congress...as a matter of record.
Holy cow, what has happened to the balls of AMERICA? Did they all go gay, feminine? If so...count AMERICA lost; as no country in the worlds history has ever survived by being passive and compliant.
W.B.B. JOHNSON- PATRIOTICKLE
Thank you. It's always fun to visit this blog. I think the fact that we have such different viewpoints -- but common goals -- makes this enjoyable.
Ok, before I get into anything, I MUST insist that Canadians are not subjects. We are most certainly citizens. I think you have some strong misconceptions about Canada. We are a free, democratic people. We are a CAPITALIST country, like yours with some social programs to protect the welfare of our people.
We vote in our leaders -- and we actually have more choices than you on the ballot. Where you have two main parties, we have five. It's actually very difficult for any political party in Canada to hold a majority for very long, which is sort of a built-in protection against any person or group becoming too powerful.
So, you've asked for cases in which masses asked for liberty and got it. Well, none are as simple as saying "can we have it" and the opressors saying "sure", but there are some non-violent examples:
1 - Canada: Although Canada did have two rebellions against the British (one was essentially a barfight), neither of those gained independence. In fact, Canadian independence was gained on paper, diplomatically. Part of it can be credited to the British fearing a U.S. invasion (which didn't happen after our confederation) but still, our self-governence was in fact earned through requests and negotiation.
2 - India: Probably the best example of non-violence in gaining political independence. You've heard of Gandhi, right? His silent yet bold protests of British occupation united the Indian people and led to their independence in 1947. Another example where earlier (1800s) rebellions did NOT work, but peaceful means did.
3 - Many sub-Saharan African nations, such as Ghana, peacefully achieved their independance. In 1956, Ghana officially requested independence from Britain. The British said yes.
So, in fact, freedom does not always have to be earned at gunpoint. That's not to say that war isn't sometimes neccesary -- I know the British would not have given up the 13 colonies in the 1770s without a fight.
You're right that your right to bear arms is unique. I do respect that as one of the principles of your nation. If that remains a strong value among Americans, then so be it. I only mean to say that gun control is not such a horrible thing that would instantly see free, patriotic Americans round up and executed, as you seem to suggest. I offer Canada, the UK and other nations as examples. Yes, personal safety is important, but in countries like ours where fewer people have guns, it's less likely that you're going to need a gun to defend yourself. I've never seen a handgun that wasn't carried by a police officer.
In Canada, 30 percent of murders are comitted with a firearm. In the U.S., it's 70 percent. From 1998-2004, Canada's homicide rate was 1.82 per 100,000 people. In the U.S., it was 6.3 per 100,000 people.
I'm not saying that it's never the case where a gun would be handy, as gun crime does occur. But I still believe gun control is better for the people overall. The fact that fewer people in Canada die of gun violence is a testament to that. There's a cultural issue as well, though. Canada had less gun crime before gun control as well. I guess Americans just like guns more, which probably resonates from how your country came to be.
We are not, however, communists. There is an enormous and very important difference between having SOME social programs (in a social democracy, still based on capitalism) and being or becoming communist.
I'm not sure if you've ever been to Canada or not. I encourage you to come up for a visit. You'll find that Canada is remarkably similar to the U.S. It's a little colder, sure. Some of the people speak French, the beer is stronger and you can buy milk in bags. But the streets are still lined with shops, we have Wal-marts and gas stations. We have McDonalds and apple pie. I drive a Chevy.
I'm an entrepreneur. I love capitalism. It's fun, and it's worked out well for me. I am not at all interested in giving that up. However, I also recognize that there are some things that are too important to be left to business. Businesses are not interested in social welfare. They don't care about the fate of a country. They care about making their shareholders rich. For something like health care, that's at odds with what will best help the population. For that reason, we have public health care. We also have more programs to help prevent economic recession and unfair wages. Does that make us communists? HELL NO! Is that done out of desire for control? NO! That's something that most Canadians approve of, and enjoy. Canadians FOUGHT the government (diplomatically) for universal health care. That's something we wanted and got, as a people. The government didn't impose any kind of socialism on us.
America shares a similar strategy. You do have Employment Insurance, don't you? I know you personally aren't thrilled with it, but there are social programs in the U.S. as well, there are just fewer of them. If you were purely capitalist, your military would be filled with mercenaries rather than civil servants. We both recognize that some things must be government-operated, we're just in disagreement about where to draw the line.
Cailean, again...very informative and I am very grateful to have you as a regular reader. Thank you very much for your insight and patronage.
Sorry for not going into more detail today; as I am on vacation with my family.
Let me ask you three little-bitty questions. [I promise this will not hurt a bit.]lol
1) Who is easier to control; a man with the means to defend himself and his family...or a man without the means?
2) What is the overwhelming majority? Countries that have won their Independence; or Countries that have been GIVEN, their Independence?
3) Do things stay the same? The Status-Quo?
These questions will tell you a bit about yourself, and a great deal about me.
I do know Canada IS quite a lot like AMERICA; and I have been there several times. I like the Canadian people as a whole and believe you do have people that love freedom; and are NOT truly subjects. My whole point was...without guns or the means to stop "FUTURE" episodes of "POSSIBLE" agression towards your people (of which history bears me out)...who will protect you and the Canadian people? Just because it hasn't happened as yet...doesn't mean that it never will.
Guns and the means of the people to protect themselves (from robbers and governments-foreign and domestic); I contend that without them (guns), the "People" are much easier to control, take-over and "exterminate".
Certainly, you of all people, must understand that I do not mean to say that these events WILL happen; simply that given the nature of greed and lust of power and control (that ALL men and women are capable of)...why would you want to give them even the slightest opening? That...is what I don't understand about the anti-gun movement. Don't y'all understand that history is the only truth left us by man.
My Federal-Government has one responsibility dictated by the Constitution of the United States of America...protect us from foreign aggression. The individual States of my country are left with the rest. That was the way it was supposed to be in this (my) country. Over the years...greed and lust for control, power and riches, changed all that. The government of this country has no place "TELLING", ordering, or "Legislating" control over the people. That means...they can't have my guns, my cigarettes, my children, my home (except by eminent domain), and MY freedom of choice.
Thank you Cailean, guess I turned this into a bit longer rant than I originally planned...ooops. LOL
One more thing I would very much like your opinion on is the documentary by Alex Jones called: "END GAME". You can find it through google video. I have researched and verified the events depicted in this video. I encourage you to do the same.
Thank you Cailean, and I look forward to future discussions without.
Very Gratefully yours,
W.B.B. JOHNSON-PATRIOTICKLE
I'll try to answer:
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1) Who is easier to control; a man with the means to defend himself and his family...or a man without the means?
Obviously one with the means to defend himself, but do not underestimate the power of will. It depends what we need defense from. An invading military would meet an army, and I don't think either of our countries would turn away those willing to fight in our defense. If war were to come to Canadian soil, we would be able to arm ourselves.
If we're talking regular criminals, well we still have fewer guns because of gun control, so that's less of an issue. We'd have even less guns in Canada if America had gun control as well.
Yeah, in the event that your country is invaded or the government turns evil, or a war breaks out for whatever reason, it would be good to be able to defend yourself. But until that happens, should people not be concerned that so many guns throughout America are being used for crime?
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2) What is the overwhelming majority? Countries that have won their Independence; or Countries that have been GIVEN, their Independence?
I would say that most countries have won their independence, yes. Apart from a few exceptions, even those won dipomatically were in fact won. India's independance, I would say, is won by the actions of a people refusing to cooperate with their opressors.
Yes, it happens. But I'd rather not be a part of continuing these age-old problems we speak of. I would take up arms as a last resort. I count myself lucky that I live in a place and time where I'll probably never need to.
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3) Do things stay the same? The Status-Quo?
Do you mean for newly-independant nations? If that's the case, then no, not at all. Canada maintained itself relatively peacefully after independance. We never really had a civil war in the way you did. India was immediately partitioned into modern India and Pakistan, because the previous borders didn't make sense -- British rule had forced incompatible religious groups together. The same happened in most of Africa. The Congo is a particularly troubling example. But those are mainly the result of colonialism itself, not the depart from it. I'm way off topic now.
In general nothing is more constant than change. The status quo is something that I think right-wingers try to uphold because it's working for them -- whether that be because they're personally wealthy or have the power. I don't think any nation has achieved perfection and we should all keep moving towards our ideals. There's not one pure ideal (capitalism, socialism, even true communism which has yet to actually exist) that SHOULD be the path of each country, but no country can say it has no room to improve itself.
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As for who will protect the Canadian people, as I say above -- we do have a military. It's not as big as yours but it's there. We also have millions of eligible Canadians who would be asked to serve in the event of a crisis. Chances are, if Canadian's sovereignty were invaded, our allies (including the United States of America) would aid in our defense.
That is unless, of course, we've been invaded by the U.S... I know you guys are just dying to act on that manifest destiny thing. (LOL) Don't underestimate Canada, though, lest you forget what happened last time we were invaded -- When American soldiers attacked York (now Toronto), we fought our way to Washington and burned down the White House in return!
But in all seriousness, let's hope that war never happens here. I would make a mediocre soldier.
Obviously, I'm an idealist. We Canadians are, for the most part, promoters of peace whenever possible. We can defend ourselves and come to the aid of others, but living in fear is not something we tend to do.
I haven't seen this End Game but I will look at it when I have some time.
I hope you're enjoying your holiday with the family. Don't waste it all here!
Always a pleasure,
Colin (Cailean)
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